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They said it would be cloudy today. It was but they didn't say it was gonna rain on and off all day! ![]()
They said the light winds were gonna be from the SE today. They were but they didn't say it was gonna be sustained and gusty! ![]()
They said the fish would be biting today, they did but someone forgot to tell them to stay hooked! ![]()
Anyway, Bob and I splashed the boat just after 7a. The river level was low (1.7') but we had just enough water to safely launch. Retrieving the boat would be a different story.
The water temp stayed at 72-73dF all day.
The 1st fish was at 7:20a and smacked Bob's top water (plopper type) lure. 
Skunk off.
My skunk came off about 20 minutes later.
We made a move to get out of the wind and found a few more.
^This one went 15"!^
For some reason, I stopped taking pictures even though Bob had a nice 14"er and I had a couple of fat 13"ers.
We made a third move to try to get above the rain and that was successful. But the fishing was slow even though we caught one here and there.
Earlier, I was dragging a bait on the bottom and something picked it up and headed to Montgomery County. The drag was screaming. And then...see ya! I never saw the fish but there was some power there. That was one of 6-7 lost fish for me. These are fish hat I had on and got off. Frustration central.
Interestingly, lots of the fish came hooked while fishing slow but I had a couple that chased the bait down as I reeled it in. Bob had a couple that bit the bait as soon as it hit the water. Especially one in particular.
We are floating and Bob makes a toss and gets bit immediately. Bob say, "nice fish"!. His rod is bent, the fish is taking line and then he surfaces. I say, "nice fish my a++, that is a beast!" Now Bob says, "this could be my PB".
He fights it good but the fish is wining. He goes wherever he wants. Bob gets it close and the next thing I see is the bait flying past my face. Holy cow, it got off!! Interestingly, Bob didn't say much. It was a major disappointment for sure.
We continued to drift and Bob gets hammered again. This time he says, "it does not feel like a smallie". Correct, it was a big ole channel cat!
I should have at least measured it but there were catfish buggers everywhere.
We floated until 2p and we ended up with 26 smallies and a kittie. I thought it was slow, Bob was enjoying it.
It rained again while we ran back to the ramp. So annoying.
Retrieving the boat was OK but if you don't nail it the 1st time, the boat is up on the trailer and the jet drive is barely in the water. Always a white knuckle experience.
We ate lunch in our cars. Bob brought Jersey Mike's Italian hoagies.
Good day out despite the annoying weather.
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Nice job! The weather was a little surprising with the rain yesterday! But, it looks like you guys had a great time. And Jersey Mikes italian....yeah...that caps a nice day on the water.
ps. I'm glad I don't trailer a boat anymore.
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Good job! I planned to go out but bagged it when I saw the forecast and tried fishing from shore. I saw you guys go out (did not know it was you). I had a couple missed swipes at the popper, but no fish. Eyeing Thursday now.
Man, sounds like Bob had a dandy on. They are elusive.
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drxfish wrote:
Eyeing Thursday now.
You will have flood conditions....POR will be over 2'! ![]()
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backtofuturetoyota wrote:
I'm glad I don't trailer a boat anymore.
I threaten being like that all the time. The process of trailering, storing etc., while not difficult, gets to be a PIA! So far, I have resisted all temptations.
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It's why I still opt for the kayak....easier to transport. Having the boat in the boatel is really convenient. Having it on the dock at a certain time and just taking off. And returning I just throw the line to tie up and jump in the truck to go home.
But, I understand about having a fishing boat where you can go with a friend or two and anywhere. That makes the experience 100% better regardless of catching a fish. The smack talk alone is enough for a big smile.
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backtofuturetoyota wrote:
But, I understand about having a fishing boat where you can go with a friend or two and anywhere. That makes the experience 100% better regardless of catching a fish. The smack talk alone is enough for a big smile.
You nailed it for me.
But I did find that prepping and launching my boat was actuallly easier (for me) than loading my yak. Of course, I did not have the cool set up that you have. I had to drag my yak up a hill to get it from under the deck t the truck. No bueno.
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Wow Ernie! That is no bueno 100%!
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Sounds like a bit of an adventure. Did you see any of the beasts you lost?
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hookup wrote:
Did you see any of the beasts you lost?
Not mine...could have been any other type of river beast.
But we saw Bob's which is why I said it was a beast. Heck of a fish and he fought it for a long time which made it more heartbreaking!
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Looks like a good day in the river except for the obvious heartbreak. Sorry to hear that happens
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That fish was a beast for sure. I told Ernie I probably wouldn't land her, there's a reason the big fish get big. E. was way more upset than I was. I might go nuts when a 16 incher gets off, but I was just disappointed when she pulled free. I was happy with how I did my part, bend in the rod, drag seemed right, knot held. I got plenty of pullage as she went back and forth around the boat. Just when it seemed she was ready to turn toward the net, the lure flew out of the water and landed in the net. We know where she lives, so looking forward to next time
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That is all you can do. I find that I tend to go a little heavier in my tackle when I am sure I will be getting into the bigguns. You need to get them in fairly quick as they know how to get away.
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drxfish wrote:
I find that I tend to go a little heavier in my tackle when I am sure I will be getting into the bigguns. You need to get them in fairly quick as they know how to get away.
So when do you know?
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I am not an expert and I have lost plenty of big fish. For me, past experience such as history in certain Season/location and water conditions leads me to this assumption. I have been using my tiny popper, which gets all kinds of bites. I must throw it on a lighter setup and line. I know I am jeopardizing lost fish. I have figured out that the biggest risk is when playing them too long with light tackle. Horsing them may bend a hook, but using a more moderate rod gives them some play. Big fish have tougher mouths and many times, the hook does not penetrate all the way. When the fish thrashes and jumps, the hook comes loose. Right now, I am using 10 pound braid to 10 pound flouro leader on most of my spinning rods. One has 15 pound braid with 12 pound flouro leader. The rods have different lengths and actions, from ML-Med. My baitcasters have 1o-15 pound mono or flouro.
If I use lighter line during this time, I do not like to use it as leader. The stretch you get helps in the case of a big fish making a run. I have 6 pound Yozuri co-poly on my light lure rods (M-mod and ML action). It tests high and has caught many 18"+ smallies. A few years back, my Grandson, Emerson caught an 18" smallie on one of my UL rods with 4 pound test. It can happen but should not be the norm if you suspect you have a good chance at the biggest fish.
I watched a video with Cheun Lee, local champion kayak angler who targets trophy smallies. He uses exclusively heavier gear and throws jackhammers and bigger swim jigs almost exclusively. I like to fish for relaxation (as do you), so that is not my game.
BTW, I know why you call me out when I say stuff like that and I appreciate it. I just get excited about the strategy. Not that it always works! ![]()
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I appreciate the thinking.
Tournament anglers have a different mindset. They like to surf the fish on top of the water after they've hooked it to get it in the boat quickly. Not for me.
After your post here, maybe keeping a M rod with slightly heavier line on board is the answer. But I know me and I will always stick with the lighter stuff. I think Bob was satisfied with his battle with the beast!
I used to hit the Spot Lock when a big fish was caught on my boat but not any more. I did that to George and he lost a big one because the current was so strong. Now, I just let the boat drift while the fish is being fought. But I will hit the SL if both anglers get one at the same time, in case they are bunched up.
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I lost 2 big fish in the last couple weeks and I was satisfied with the fight and seeing the fish. Both were hooked on 6 pound line and I played them for what turned out to be too long.
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Osprey wrote:
We know where she lives, so looking forward to next time
This read in the wrong context would be a scary thought! hahaha. Thanks for the morning laugh. I'm glad you take such a good attitude towards this catch and release concept. Personally, I think it's a catch because you got it to the boat, saw it, and it "self released." That's a win!
Even with snakehead I use a 15-30 lbs braid depending on the type of lure I'm throwing, so it really matters on what the fish is hitting on that calls for different types of gear used.
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backtofuturetoyota wrote:
Osprey wrote:
We know where she lives, so looking forward to next time
This read in the wrong context would be a scary thought! hahaha. Thanks for the morning laugh.
The sensationalist news folks would have a field day with that! ![]()
backtofuturetoyota wrote:
Personally, I think it's a catch because you got it to the boat, saw it, and it "self released." That's a win!
But on this one, we saw it jump from afar and then got it close to the boat but she stayed down until she came unhooked.
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Osprey wrote:
I told Ernie I probably wouldn't land her
You jinxed yourself by saying this.
Personally, I think it's a catch because you got it to the boat, saw it, and it "self released." That's a win!
Very good friend's son once said "It don't count until your finger's stank" - kid had a very deep southern twang.
The sensationalist news folks would have a field day with that
Kinda goes with the son's saying ;-) above
Tournament anglers have a different mindset. They like to surf the fish on top of the water after they've hooked it to get it in the boat quickly. Not for me.
Ditto
One of the ol' RS'rs would fish for one or two fish a day. And he'd find them, hook them, and land them. He would use rod/reel/line just for big fish and when he's fell the tap tap tap of a dink, he wouldn't even set the hook. Most water has big fish and you just never know when you will have one jump on your lure. I tend to get bored when I'm not catching and will downsize - that's been a mistake in the past especially when you hook into the big fish.
I fish the big river up north with many excellent anglers and most of their gear is upsized from what I use. MH rods, 2500 to 3000 sized spinning reels, 10-14 pound mono or the equivalent strength in braid or bait casters with 14-20 pound test and MH to H rods. Smallies are smart in their environment and know how to dive under sharp rocks and ledges which cuts line. When a big fish jumps, there's always a chance for them to spit the hook. Lastly big bass tend to have teeth and those teeth will aide in loosing a fish by cutting the line.
I have a theory that at times, a bass will hit a lure and clamp down so hard on the line, that when an angler sets a hook, they are just moving the bass and not actually penetrating the bass' mouth hence they'll spit the lure when the chance arises
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hookup wrote:
I have a theory that at times, a bass will hit a lure and clamp down so hard on the line, that when an angler sets a hook, they are just moving the bass and not actually penetrating the bass' mouth hence they'll spit the lure when the chance arises
I would not challenge that theory...
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I had a day last winter where I swear that was happening. Solid bite, solid hookset, then the fish would just come off two seconds later. Tried switching out jigheads and lures and it didn't matter. Probably happened 10 times that day. Still caught a bunch of fish but it was really frustrating.
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