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#1 Mar-30-08 5:12PM

redskinsfan360
Patagonian Toothfish
From: VA
Registered: Mar-10-08
Posts: 1389

Spinnerbaits

Found this on the B.A.S.S. website.



"It only makes sense to me," says Denny Gilbert as he discusses making or customizing spinnerbaits. "The better commercial models are great, but sometimes you need something special."

Special begins with plenty of parts. Gilbert always carries three large plastic boxes full of them. In one he has wire frames and heads; in another he has skirts and trailers; and in the third he carries blades, swivels, clevises, clips, beads and whatever else he may need to make a bait from scratch or customize a commercial model.

"I fish Kerr Lake in Virginia and North Carolina regularly and compete in quite a few tournaments during the course of a year. Spinnerbaits are a great all-season lure if you choose the right one and throw it in the right place," he says. "But you have to have a big supply. If you carry only a few, you won't have the one you need when you need it."

To support that proposition he points to a recent event. Gilbert and his fishing partner needed a spinnerbait that would run deep but with big, gold blades that would make a lot of disturbance and be clearly visible to the bass. None of his commercial models quite fit the bill. So, he made one.

He started with a one-ounce head on a heavy wire frame. To that he attached two huge gold-colored willowleaf blades to the bait along with a couple of bright beads. In a few minutes he had exactly what he wanted — a spinnerbait he could work slow and deep and that made lots of commotion.

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Gilbert recommends carrying a big supply of spinnerbait components and warns, "If you carry only a few, you won't have the one you need when you need it."
"You can't buy that bait on the market. I wanted to be down deep and not moving forward very fast but I still needed to crank it to keep the blades moving. You have to build that one," he explains.

The mechanics of building a spinnerbait aren't all that difficult. You'll need to assemble a wire frame with a molded head; a blade or two (or more); a clevis (it attaches the upper blade to the wire arm and allows the blade to turn); a few beads and spacers; a ball bearing swivel; and a good pair of needle-nose pliers.

Slip the clevis and blade combination on the upper wire. Add a few colored beads or spacers to suit current conditions and then attach the back blade to the end of the wire with a swivel. Keep the swivel securely attached to the frame by hooking it inside a small loop in the upper wire. Use your pliers to make the loop.

After that, add a plastic or pork trailer and maybe a trailer hook. You'll be good to go.

But you don't need to make your own spinnerbaits from scratch to be successful. There are commercial models available that will meet most — but maybe not all — of your fishing needs. And if you're carrying lots of quality brand-name spinnerbaits with you, Gilbert recommends carrying fewer component parts in the boat and customizing only when necessary.

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There are commercial models available that will meet most — but maybe not all — of your fishing needs.
"Customizing a solid, high-quality spinnerbait is really simple," he says. "You can usually change the blades in a minute or two and the skirt takes less time than that," he explains. "Straighten the loop in the top wire with a pair of pliers. A new clevis with a new blade attached will go right on. Swap the back blade using the original swivel. Change the color and style of the beads and spacers to suit conditions.

Change skirts and trailers as required. Add a trailer hook and you're done. Doing this will allow you to get by with a small collection of commercial spinnerbaits if that suits your fishing style or budget."

Gilbert cautions anglers to not be penny wise and pound foolish when doing any of this, however. He emphasizes that cheap clevises holding cheap blades on cheap wire rames will not help you catch fish. In fact, they'll do just the opposite.

"Cheap components will ruin a spinnerbait. You need a bait that runs true with the blades turning freely. The cheap stuff won't do that. Use it and you'll be sorry."

Spinnerbait Guidelines

1. Willowleaf blades have lots of flash and very little lift. They work best if the water is clear or if you want the bait to run deep.

2. Colorado blades have a heavy thump and tend to lift the bait during the retrieve. Use them when you need vibration and when lift is a good thing.

3. Dark colors silhouette best in dark water or under low light conditions. Light colors work best in clear water or under bright light conditions.

4. Double blades offer more flash and vibration. Single blades are more subtle on the retrieve. Doubles will lift the bait more during the retrieve.

5. When choosing sizes and colors don't forget to match the hatch whenever possible. This is especially important when choosing skirt size and color.

6. Use plastic or pork trailers when you want more bulk. Be aware, however, that trailers will lift spinnerbaits during the retrieve.

7. Use a trailer hook when necessary, but remember they tend to hang in heavy cover.

8. Widen the gap between the upper arm and the hook to make the spinnerbait "pull" more on the retrieve and lift more.

9. Narrow the gap between the upper arm and the hook to make the spinnerbait run faster.

10. In heavily pressured waters or when fishing for conditioned bass, conventional rules don't apply. Show them something they haven't seen before. Unusual blade combinations, unusual blade colors and unusual skirt materials or colors are often productive. Experiment.

Spinnerbait Selection Chart

    Head Weight     Blade Size/Color     Skirt Color
Stained, Cold Water     Heavy — ¾ ounce or heavier     Large Colorado — Gold, Chartreuse     Bright or Dark
Stained, Warm Water     Heavy — ¾ ounce or heavier     Large Willowleaf — Gold, Chartreuse     Bright or Dark
Clear, Cold Water     Heavy — ¾ ounce or heavier     Medium Willowleaf —Silver, White     White, Silver, Ghost
Clear, Warm Water     Medium — ½ to ¾ ounce     Medium Willowleaf — Silver, White     White, Silver, Ghost
Shallow Water, Active Bite     Light — Less than ½ ounce     Medium to Small Willowleaf — Silver, White     White, Silver, Ghost
Deep Water, Active Bite     Heavy — ¾ ounce or heavier     Medium to Large Willowleaf — Gold, Chartreuse     Dark
Subtle Presentation     Light — less than ½ ounce     Small Willowleaf — Silver, White, Gray     White, Silver, Ghost
Noisy Presentation     Heavy — ¾ ounce or heavier     Big Colorado — Silver     Bright, Colorful
Heavily Pressured Bass     Light for shallow water, heavy for deep water     Something Different     Something Different

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#2 Mar-31-08 9:25PM

fishin4food
Northern Snakehead
From: Ashburn, VA
Registered: Mar-21-08
Posts: 278
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Re: Spinnerbaits

Which spinner bait would you suggest?

Thanks!!


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#3 Mar-31-08 9:39PM

redskinsfan360
Patagonian Toothfish
From: VA
Registered: Mar-10-08
Posts: 1389

Re: Spinnerbaits

Look around

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#4 Apr-02-08 8:47PM

L1Ranger
Northern Snakehead
From: Shenandoah Valley
Registered: Nov-20-06
Posts: 264

Re: Spinnerbaits

why wait!  5 out of 7 fish in my last two outings came on spinnerbaits and I'll be throwing them first things this saturday morning again. 

i love em


now it's yesterday! roll
Ernie

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#5 Apr-02-08 11:13PM

Ernie
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From: Ashburn VA
Registered: Feb-03-06
Posts: 16509

Re: Spinnerbaits

A few weeks ago, Charlie Taylor caught 9 of 10 bass on spinnerbaits!

Ernie


Time to go fishin' again!

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#6 Apr-03-08 2:13AM

bigfoot
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Registered: Mar-13-08
Posts: 94

Re: Spinnerbaits

we can load up on spinner baits when we go to dicks tomorrow.


working is for those who don't fish

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#7 Apr-03-08 2:20AM

Ernie
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From: Ashburn VA
Registered: Feb-03-06
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Re: Spinnerbaits

Do you have your 20% off coupon that came in the mail?

ER


Time to go fishin' again!

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#8 Apr-03-08 12:19PM

redskinsfan360
Patagonian Toothfish
From: VA
Registered: Mar-10-08
Posts: 1389

Re: Spinnerbaits

Ya Im planning on gettin a couple more, but I didn' get a 20% of coupon.

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#9 Apr-03-08 12:27PM

Ernie
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From: Ashburn VA
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Re: Spinnerbaits

Then come by before you go so you can use my coupon.  It's right by the computer screen (tell Brett to get it).

ER


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#10 Apr-06-08 5:40PM

Charlie NHBA
Northern Snakehead
From: Herndon, Va.
Registered: Apr-06-08
Posts: 193
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Re: Spinnerbaits

Gentlemen:

For this general area (Virginia), the prevalent forage for largemouth bass are members of the shad family, i.e. gizzard & threadfin shad, blueback herring and alewife. Each of these fish, along with members of the minnow family, can be duplicated by a willow leaf spinnerbait.

I generally use a 1/4 oz. bait with a gold willowleaf and a gold Colorado blade. A white skirt is the only way to go, unless the water is extremely muddy, in which case I add a little chartreuse to the skirt. This is the ideal bait for year round use on the bodies of water throughout the Commonwealth of Virginia and the northern North Carolina waters.

In the early spring, during pre-spawn, I will up the size to a 1/2 oz. bait with larger blades. This will produce some real hogs as they feed up for the spawn. Use them on dropoffs adjacent to spawning areas and hold on!

In the late fall, I switch to 1/2 & 3/4 oz. baits with Colorado blades. These blades produce more "Thump" and can be felt through the water for much longer distances. As the water cools and the fish become more lethargic, I also add a big pork chunk to the hook and yo-yo the bait in deeper water at the base of creek or river channel dropoffs. While this method does not produce lots of fish, it does produce large fish.

I have used a lot of spinnerbaits over the past 40 years, but have pretty generally settled on two brands. I use the Worden's Bait Company, Hildebrandt "Okeechobee Special" willow leaf spinnerbait in both 1/4 & 1/2 oz. sizes and the Mann's Bait Company, Hank Park Classic Colorado Blade in 1/4 and 3/4 oz. sizes.

These two spinnerbaits have put me at the top of our club standings for the past 17 years. They tend to catch fish when nothing else will turn them on. I have, on numerous occasions, caught limits of fish when my partners were throwing the same size and color spinnerbaits, but not catching fish. When I gave them one of mine, they started catching fish. This would indicate to me that it is not my skill, but the baits that are turning on the fish.

In 17 years of guiding on the Potomac River, both upper and lower, I have used spinnerbaits with exceptional success. All fish love them and I have caught white and yellow perch, smallmouth and largemouth bass, sunfish, crappie, striper, carp, catfish, white sucker, pickerel, walleye, trout and flounder on them. It is generally the first bait I pick up and is always on the deck of my boat.

Charlie NHBA


Charlie NHBA.........

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