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#1 Mar-11-08 12:38AM

redskinsfan360
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From: VA
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Currents

How would you suggest fishing currents?

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#2 Mar-12-08 12:10AM

redskinsfan360
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Re: Currents

Ya..what about lakes?

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#3 Mar-12-08 12:34AM

Ernie
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Re: Currents

That's a good question...the lake (Cedar) does have a west to east flow but I don't think that plays much. Charlie Taylor, who posts here also, has told me many times that the wind will push water AND bait to the opposite side. So if the wind is in your face, fish right out in front of you as there should be some bait....and fish!

Ernie


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#4 Mar-12-08 3:44PM

Osprey
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Re: Currents

Ernie has a point named after him? I'm impressed.


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#5 Mar-12-08 4:57PM

L1Ranger
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From: Shenandoah Valley
Registered: Nov-20-06
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Re: Currents

ernie's point huh

i want my own point

river currents - smallmouth bass - not so much fishing the currents -the the areas of the current without current
now that I've tied my brain in a knot, lets expand.

a fish doesn't get big by expending all its energy - it wants to be a coach potato with room service.  He/She want an area where it can hang out, with minimal effort, and its a major plus if the water will wash the food to it.

there are several basic ideas of these areas, as well as other factors that will come into play as for fish holding areas.   often time, the larger fish take the prime areas, while the smaller fish will have to settle for secondary areas.   think about grampa sitting in his easy chair - grandma brings him food and beer, meanwhile, the youngns run around all over the house, grabbing bits of food here and there when they can.

here's a link to a paddling site that displays some of these features. 
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= … %26hl%3Den

eddy - caused by an obstruction in the water.  as the water fills in behind these obstructions it creates an upstream current thats usually considerably less than the downstream current. always a good spot to put a cast or two.
food that is caught in the current is washed down, and around into this eddy, ready for the waiting fishes.

the line between the two currents creates a seam which can suspend food and provide a prime holding spot for fish.  the fish can seat in the easy back current of the eddy, waiting for food to be washed out to it, or make a quick jaunt into the main current to grab a bite and back into the easy living of the eddy again.

boils - this is caused by an underwater obstructions, such as a large rock.  as the flow meets the face of it, the water is forced up causing the boil you see on the surface.  Behind that rock will be another eddy of sorts.  the rock will actually be located upstream of the boil a bit.  how far depending on the speed of the flow and the angle at which its coming up the face. 

another consideration is a bend in the river - some bends are rather gradual and don't offer much in the way of changes, but some of the more abrupt bends will change the layout of the river. 
a channel will tend to follow to the outside of the bend, while sediment that is suspended in the water will be released in teh slower water to the inside of the bend.  Because of this, you'll get a log of undercut banks and more desirable fish holding structure along the outside bends of rivers adn these generally call for more attention while fishing.   This isn't to say that the inside bend can't or won't hold fish. 

the last thing i want to touch on right now, is pushwater, or the water just ahead of the a riffle or rapid. This water gets backed up before it goes to falling and in many cases presents a nice easy flow. I don't think fish just hang out in this stuff unless they are specifically looking to get something to eat.  Many times this will be characterized as you come out of a deeper hole, the water gets shallower and there will be smaller, more round uniform "pebble" like rocks on the bottom before a rapid/riffle. 

of course, fishing current for smallmouths isn't generally a cold water activiity.  it can be effective during pre spawn, especially with deeper currents near winter spots, but be ready to get down to the fish which may require a bit more weight than usual. 
These tactics will really do the best for you once you get into June and on into September, sometimes later.


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#6 Mar-12-08 5:03PM

Ernie
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Re: Currents

Josh,

That is a great lesson!

Thanks!

Ernie


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#7 Mar-12-08 5:04PM

Ernie
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Re: Currents

Osprey wrote:

Ernie has a point named after him? I'm impressed.

Unfortunatly, most maps don't even show our pond so I can't properly name it!

Ernie


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#8 Mar-12-08 7:27PM

redskinsfan360
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Re: Currents

the lesson will be really helpful in catching more fish!!!!!!

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#9 Mar-12-08 9:03PM

Ernie
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Re: Currents

Charlie,

There are some great fishermen that post on the website. Lots to learn!

Ernie


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#10 Mar-13-08 12:38AM

redskinsfan360
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From: VA
Registered: Mar-10-08
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Re: Currents

Ya.....one of my classes is in a computer room (CADD) and we use laptops sometimes in classes...so i get caught up on computer stuff at the end of class or when I am bored.

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#11 Mar-13-08 1:25AM

bigfoot
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Re: Currents

charlie its matt you would be looking up fishing stuff in class same as me.  ERNIES POINT is a great place to catch bass or right across after a rain.


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#12 Apr-06-08 6:42PM

Charlie NHBA
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From: Herndon, Va.
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Re: Currents

The information above about current is essentially accurate.

Smallmouth and largemouth are two completely different species. While largemouth bass do indeed, like to sit, out of the current or tide, and wait for food to be washed to them, smallmouth are chasers. They much prefer to get out in riffles and catch their food. While largemouth like to sit behind some kind of structure or cover, such as a point or downed wood, smallmouth prefer to run ledges.

Current is produced by a number of things. Obviously, water entering and leaving the main body of water produces moving current. Tides produce a constantly changing current and wind produces current.

In a lake, the primary current will be furnished by an incoming creek, drainage ditches and wind. In most of these events, the current will be flowing in the same direction. Since lakes normally hold largemouth, these fish will be sitting behind any type of cover or structure that breaks the current, waiting for food to be washed to them. This could be a downed tree, piling, rock, point, grassbed, shopping cart, etc. It doesn't matter what breaks the current, only that they do not have to use energy to hold in one place until something washes by that they can dart out and eat.

ALL predator fish are going to be where the food is. We all congregate in the kitchen or at a restaurant. Fish are no different. They will always be located where they can get a meal. Baitfish are the same way. They will congregate where there is food. Ever look at the base of a boat ramp? You will practically never see a concrete or asphalt boat ramp that does not have a school of minnows at the base. They are there because there is algae growing on the concrete. Ever wonder why bass hang on pilings? In addition to the security afforded, algae grows on the pilings, attracting minnows, effectively stocking the larder. The bass are taking advantage of the food source thus afforded. Ever wonder why the larger fish are almost always present on rocks in the early spring? Sunlight warming the rocks promotes algae growth on the rocks. This algae growth attracts minnows who attract bass and other predators.

Most of the above areas are normally out of the current. Consequently, they will generally hold some bass at all times. Bass in this general area are on a three day cycle, meaning that they must eat every third day to maintain their body mass and weight. If they are to increase their mass and weight, they must eat more frequently or more at one sitting. This generally relates to more at one sitting, in order for them to digest what they have eaten. So, at any one time, you will only have 1/3 of the bass in an area feeding. The rest may be there, but generally, they will be in a little deeper water, holding and digesting.

Some baitfish, such as shad and herring, eat plankton. A microscopic form of plant life that lives on the surface of the water. When wind generates current, this plankton is blown in the direction of the wind. When the shad or other baitfish follow it, predator fish such as bass follow them. This means that a windblown point will hold fish when all other areas are bare.

Hopefully this has provided a little addition to L1Ranger's explanation above.

Charlie NHBA......


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